Month: March 2024

Triangle area problem: REVISITED.

March 31, 2024 math and physics play , , , , ,

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On LinkedIn, James asked for ideas about how to solve What is the total area of ABC? You should be able to solve this! using geometric algebra.

I found a couple ways, and this last variation is pretty cool.

fig. 1. Triangle with given areas.

To start with I’ve re-sketched the triangle with the areas slightly more to scale in fig. 1, where areas \( A_1 = 40, A_2 = 30, A_3 = 35, A_4 = 84 \) are given. The aim is to find the total area \( \sum A_i \).

If we had the vertex and center locations as vectors, we could easily compute the total area, but we don’t. We also don’t know the locations of the edge intersections, but can calculate those, as they satisfy
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:20}
\begin{aligned}
\BD &= s_1 \BA = \BB + t_1 \lr{ \BC – \BB } \\
\BE &= s_2 \BC = \BA + t_2 \lr{ \BB – \BA } \\
\BF &= s_3 \BB = \BA + t_3 \lr{ \BC – \BA }.
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}
It turns out that the problem is over specified, and we will only need \( \BD, \BE \). To find those, we may eliminate the \( t_i \)’s by wedging appropriately (or equivalently, using Cramer’s rule), to find
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:40}
\begin{aligned}
s_1 \BA \wedge \lr{ \BC – \BB } &= \BB \wedge \lr{ \BC – \BB } \\
s_2 \BC \wedge \lr{ \BB – \BA } &= \BA \wedge \lr{ \BB – \BA },
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}
or
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:60}
\begin{aligned}
s_1 &= \frac{\BB \wedge \BC }{\BA \wedge \lr{ \BC – \BB }} \\
s_2 &= \frac{\BA \wedge \BB }{\BC \wedge \lr{ \BB – \BA }}.
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}
Now let’s introduce some scalar area variables, each pseudoscalar multiples of bivector area elements, with \( i = \Be_{1} \Be_2 \)
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:81}
\begin{aligned}
X &= \lr{ \BA \wedge \BB } i^{-1} = \begin{vmatrix} \BA & \BB \end{vmatrix} \\
Y &= \lr{ \BC \wedge \BB } i^{-1} = \begin{vmatrix} \BC & \BB \end{vmatrix} \\
Z &= \lr{ \BA \wedge \BC } i^{-1} = \begin{vmatrix} \BA & \BC \end{vmatrix},
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}
Note that the orientation of all of these has been picked to have a positive orientation matching the figure, and that the
triangle area that we seek for this problem is \( 1/2 \Abs{ \BA \wedge \BB } = X/2 \).

The intersection parameters, after cancelling pseudoscalar factors, are
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:100}
\begin{aligned}
s_1 &= \frac{\BB \wedge \BC }{\BA \wedge \BC – \BA \wedge \BB } = \frac{-Y}{Z – X} \\
s_2 &= \frac{\BA \wedge \BB }{\BC \wedge \BB – \BC \wedge \BA } = \frac{X}{Y + Z},
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}
so the intersection points are
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:120}
\begin{aligned}
\BD &= \BA \frac{Y}{X – Z} \\
\BE &= \BC \frac{X}{Y + Z}.
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}
Observe that both scalar factors are positive (i.e.: \( X > Z \).)

We may now express all the known areas in terms of our area variables
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:140}
\begin{aligned}
A_1 &= \inv{2} \lr{ \BD \wedge \BC } i^{-1} \\
A_1 + A_2 &= \inv{2} \lr{ \BA \wedge \BC } i^{-1} \\
A_1 + A_2 + A_3 &= \inv{2} \lr{ \BA \wedge \BE } i^{-1} \\
A_2 &= \inv{2} \lr{ \lr{\BA – \BD} \wedge \lr{ \BC – \BD } } i^{-1}\\
A_3 &= \inv{2} \lr{ \lr{\BA – \BC} \wedge \lr{ \BE – \BC } } i^{-1}\\
A_5 &= \inv{2} \lr{ \lr{\BB – \BC} \wedge \lr{ \BF – \BC } } i^{-1}.
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}

As mentioned, the problem is over specified, and we can get away with just the first three of these relations to solve for total area. Eliminating \( \BD, \BE \) from those, gives us
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:180}
A_1 = \inv{2} \frac{Y}{X – Z} \lr{ \BA \wedge \BC } i^{-1} = \frac{Z}{2} \lr{ \frac{Y}{X – Z} },
\end{equation}
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:460}
A_1 + A_2 = \inv{2} \lr{ \BA \wedge \BC } i^{-1} = \frac{Z}{2},
\end{equation}
and
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:400}
\begin{aligned}
A_1 + A_2 + A_3 &= \inv{2} \lr{ \BA \wedge \BE } i^{-1} \\
&= \inv{2} \lr{ \BA \wedge \BC } \frac{X}{Y + Z} \\
&= \frac{Z}{2} \frac{X}{Y + Z}.
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}

Let’s eliminate \( Z \) to start with, leaving
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:420}
\begin{aligned}
A_1 \lr{ X – 2 A_1 – 2 A_2 } &= Y \lr{ A_1 + A_2 } \\
\lr{ A_1 + A_2 + A_3 } \lr{ Y + 2 A_1 + 2 A_2 } &= \lr{ A_1 + A_2 } X.
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}
Solving for \( Y \) yields
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:380}
Y = – 2 A_1 – 2 A_2 + \frac{ \lr{A_1 + A_2} X }{ A_1 + A_2 + A_3 } = \lr{ A_1 + A_2 } \lr{ -2 + \frac{X}{A_1 + A_2 + A_3 } },
\end{equation}
and back substution leaves us with a linear equation in \( X \)
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:480}
\lr{ A_1 + A_2}^2 \lr{ -2 + \frac{X}{A_1 + A_2 + A_3 } } = A_1 \lr{ X – 2 A_1 – 2 A_2 }.
\end{equation}

This is easily solved to find
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:500}
\frac{X}{2} = \frac{ \lr{ A_1 + A_2} A_2 \lr{ A_1 + A_2 + A_3 } }{A_2 \lr{ A_1 + A_2} – A_1 A_3 }.
\end{equation}
Plugging in the numeric values for the problem solves it, giving a total triangular area of \( \inv{2} \lr{\BA \wedge \BB } i^{-1} = X/2 = 315 \).

Now, I’ll have to watch the video and see how he solved it.

Triangle area problem

March 30, 2024 math and physics play , , , , , ,

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On LinkedIn, James asked for ideas about how to solve What is the total area of ABC? You should be able to solve this! using geometric algebra.

I found one way, but suspect it’s not the easiest way to solve the problem.

To start with I’ve re-sketched the triangle with the areas slightly more to scale in fig. 1, where areas \( A_1, A_2, A_3, A_5\) are given. The aim is to find the total area \( \sum A_i \).

fig. 1. Triangle with given areas.

 

If we had the vertex and center locations as vectors, we could easily compute the total area, but we don’t. We also don’t know the locations of the edge intersections, but can calculate those, as they satisfy
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:20}
\begin{aligned}
\BD &= s_1 \BA = \BB + t_1 \lr{ \BC – \BB } \\
\BE &= s_2 \BC = \BA + t_2 \lr{ \BB – \BA } \\
\BF &= s_3 \BB = \BA + t_3 \lr{ \BC – \BA }.
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}
Eliminating the \( t_i \) constants by wedging appropriately (or equivalently, using Cramer’s rule), we find
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:40}
\begin{aligned}
s_1 \BA \wedge \lr{ \BC – \BB } &= \BB \wedge \lr{ \BC – \BB } \\
s_2 \BC \wedge \lr{ \BB – \BA } &= \BA \wedge \lr{ \BB – \BA } \\
s_3 \BB \wedge \lr{ \BC – \BA } &= \BA \wedge \lr{ \BC – \BA },
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}
or
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:60}
\begin{aligned}
s_1 &= \frac{\BB \wedge \BC }{\BA \wedge \lr{ \BC – \BB }} \\
s_2 &= \frac{\BA \wedge \BB }{\BC \wedge \lr{ \BB – \BA }} \\
s_3 &= \frac{\BA \wedge \BC }{\BB \wedge \lr{ \BC – \BA }}.
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}
Introducing bivector (signed-area) unknowns
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:80}
\begin{aligned}
\alpha &= \BA \wedge \BB = \begin{vmatrix} \BA & \BB \end{vmatrix} \Be_{12} \\
\beta &= \BB \wedge \BC = \begin{vmatrix} \BB & \BC \end{vmatrix} \Be_{12} \\
\gamma &= \BC \wedge \BA = \begin{vmatrix} \BC & \BA \end{vmatrix} \Be_{12}.
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}
the intersection parameters are
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:100}
\begin{aligned}
s_1 &= \frac{\BB \wedge \BC }{\BA \wedge \BC – \BA \wedge \BB } = \frac{\beta}{-\gamma – \alpha} \\
s_2 &= \frac{\BA \wedge \BB }{\BC \wedge \BB – \BC \wedge \BA } = \frac{\alpha}{-\beta – \gamma} \\
s_3 &= \frac{\BA \wedge \BC }{\BB \wedge \BC – \BB \wedge \BA } = \frac{-\gamma}{\beta + \alpha},
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}
so the intersection points are
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:120}
\begin{aligned}
\BD &= -\BA \frac{\beta}{\gamma + \alpha} \\
\BE &= -\BC \frac{\alpha}{\beta + \gamma} \\
\BF &= -\BB \frac{\gamma}{\beta + \alpha}.
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}

We may now express the known areas in terms of these unknown vectors
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:140}
\begin{aligned}
A_1 &= \inv{2} \Abs{ \BD \wedge \BC } \\
A_2 &= \inv{2} \Abs{ \lr{\BC – \BA} \wedge \lr{ \BD – \BA } } \\
A_3 &= \inv{2} \Abs{ \lr{\BA – \BC} \wedge \lr{ \BE – \BC } } \\
A_5 &= \inv{2} \Abs{ \lr{\BB – \BC} \wedge \lr{ \BF – \BC } },
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}
but
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:160}
\begin{aligned}
\BD – \BA &= -\BA \lr{ 1 + \frac{\beta}{\gamma + \alpha} } \\
\BE – \BC &= -\BC \lr{ 1 + \frac{\alpha}{\beta + \gamma} } \\
\BF – \BC &= -\BB \frac{\gamma}{\beta + \alpha} – \BC,
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}
so
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:180}
\begin{aligned}
A_1 &= \inv{2} \Abs{ \BA \wedge \BC \frac{\beta}{\gamma + \alpha} } = \inv{2} \Abs{ \gamma} \Abs{ \frac{\beta}{\gamma + \alpha} } \\
A_2 &= \inv{2} \Abs{ \lr{\BC – \BA} \wedge \BA } \Abs{ 1 + \frac{\beta}{\gamma + \alpha} } = \inv{2} \Abs{\gamma} \Abs{ 1 + \frac{\beta}{\gamma + \alpha} } \\
A_3 &= \inv{2} \Abs{ \lr{\BA – \BC} \wedge \BC } \Abs{ 1 + \frac{\alpha}{\beta + \gamma} } = \inv{2} \Abs{\gamma} \Abs{ 1 + \frac{\alpha}{\beta + \gamma} },
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}
and
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:200}
\begin{aligned}
A_5
&= \inv{2} \Abs{ \lr{\BB – \BC} \wedge \lr{ \BB \frac{\gamma}{\beta + \alpha} + \BC } } \\
&= \inv{2} \Abs{ \BB \wedge \BC – \BC \wedge \BB \frac{\gamma}{\beta + \alpha} } \\
&= \inv{2} \Abs{ \beta } \Abs{ 1 + \frac{\gamma}{\beta + \alpha} }.
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}

This gives us four equations in two (bivector) unknowns
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:220}
\begin{aligned}
4 A_1^2 \lr{ \gamma + \alpha }^2 &= -\gamma^2 \beta^2 \\
4 A_2^2 \lr{ \gamma + \alpha }^2 &= -\gamma^2 \lr{ \alpha + \beta + \gamma }^2 \\
4 A_3^2 \lr{ \gamma + \beta }^2 &= -\gamma^2 \lr{ \alpha + \beta + \gamma }^2 \\
4 A_4^2 \lr{ \alpha + \beta }^2 &= -\beta^2 \lr{ \alpha + \beta + \gamma }^2.
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}
Let’s recast this in terms of area determinants, to eliminate the bivector variables in these equations. To do so, write
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:240}
\begin{aligned}
X &= \begin{vmatrix} \BA & \BB \end{vmatrix} \\
Y &= \begin{vmatrix} \BB & \BC \end{vmatrix} \\
Z &= \begin{vmatrix} \BC & \BA \end{vmatrix}.
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}
so
\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:300}
\begin{aligned}
4 A_1^2 \lr{ Z + X }^2 &= Z^2 Y^2 \\
4 A_2^2 \lr{ Z + X }^2 &= Z^2 \lr{ X + Y + Z }^2 \\
4 A_3^2 \lr{ Z + Y }^2 &= Z^2 \lr{ X + Y + Z }^2 \\
4 A_4^2 \lr{ X + Y }^2 &= Y^2 \lr{ X + Y + Z }^2.
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}
The goal is now to solve this system for \( X \). That solution (courtesy of Mathematica), for the numeric values in the original problem \( A_1 = 40, A_2 = 30, A_3 = 35, A_4 = 84 \), is:

\begin{equation}\label{eqn:triangle_area_problem:280}
\begin{aligned}
X &= \pm 630 \\
Y &= \mp 280 \\
Z &= \mp 140,
\end{aligned}
\end{equation}
so the total area is \( 315 \).

Now, I’ll have to watch the video and see how he solved it. I’d guess in a considerably simpler way.